Is geothermal overkill for an earth-sheltered house?
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18 Nov 2008 05:15 PM
I was originally thinking of installing a geothermal system for the rural house I'm planning on building next spring. But I've decided to build an earth-sheltered house (one which has several feet of earth covering three sides and the roof), and I'll also be using passive solar heating (the house extends east-west to maximize sunshine soaking into concrete floors and walls through the south windows). Everything I've read tells me that this combination of earth-sheltered design plus passive solar means the back-up heating system only needs to be a quarter of that for a regular house, even here in central/eastern Ontario. Most people in this situation just install a high-efficiency woodstove or two. So is it not worth the cost to install a geothermal system? Does anyone know of someone using geothermal for an earth-sheltered house? Thanks.
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19 Nov 2008 10:57 AM

I would say no, you could just go with a nice small system, maybe a ton or so, not sure how small they make them.

A bit off topic but you might be interested in this link, a long blog about building an earth sheltered off grid home.

Green Bay, WI. - 4 ton horizontal goethermal, 16k gallon indoor pool, 3kw solar PV setup, 2 ton air to air HP, 3400 sq ft
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19 Nov 2008 08:47 PM
Geo is green and comfortable source of heat but may be overkill in an extremely low load situation. About how big will your burrow, Oops, I meant to say earth-sheltered home be?
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19 Nov 2008 09:53 PM
Not sure what your local code requires, but around here you must maintain 68* in all occupied spaces with a heating system powered by elec. gas or oil (not wood, corn pellets.....). In other words, it must be automatic. The first thing that would come to mind for very infrequent and low load would be electric baseboard or forced as it has a low installation cost, low maintenance and is 100% efficient. Gas furnaces are not fans of infrequent use. Geo will still run cheapest, but if it only saves you a few hundred/year, payback is not satisfactory.
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19 Nov 2008 10:35 PM

Thank you, Brock, Engineer, and Joe for your replies. The earth-sheltered house will be about 2000 sq. ft. and cut into the side of a hill, so not actually below ground at all. But the several feet of soil on the 3 sides and the roof maintain the interior temperature at the same temperature as the earth, an even 50-52 degrees 24/7 even when it's -30 outside (doncha love those Canadian winters!).

Add to this the passive solar heating (the sun's heat soaking into the concrete floors and walls through the one exposed side on the south) and your house only needs heating (geothermal or anything else) on the coldest of nights and long cloudy-day periods. So I think you three are right about this kind of low-load system not being enough to justify the geo system. Thanks again!

...Terry

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