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ICF372
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| 12/13/2001 6:40 PM |
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I wonder how many of icf pro's live in an icf home?
We do alot of talking, but do we show our clients our own home. I have seen many a ready mix supplyer build a new stud frame home.Not concrete. Even steel frame ready mix plants with asphalt driveways. I know there are lots of reasons these guys may have built this way. Mostly lack of good info. I suppose. But how about a show of hands for us icfers. My hand is in the air as I know and hope many of yours will be. or soon will be.
I just recieved the last issiue of concrete homes. Wow ! Wow! Wow ! palace's even the adv. 24,000 square feet homes? Although this is to cool to be real. Who are they targeting here? When 90% of the home buyers can't afford this kind of home. Would they show 1,000 square feet homes?
What about doublewide look a likes?
Lets show affordable homes , that one can retire in. I know we can build $80,000 to &100,000 dollar homes. How many do you want?
I think the icf industry has over looked this price range of home.
Icf kit packages to compete with doublewides, now theres a thought.
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Eldon Howe
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James Eggert
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| 12/13/2001 9:38 PM |
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Eldon
I live in an ICF home that I built almost 5 years ago. I will never go back to wood, which does have its uses.
Now if some day I ever get done experimenting with my heating systems maybe I could relax!!
BY the way, I use my home along with other pictures to show interested clients items like the deep window areas, different ways to trim windows, sound transmission or lack thereof, the solid feel, etc. They appreciate seeing the real thing, and one that is truly lived in by the builder.
Take Care
Jim
Edited by - James Eggert on 12/13/2001 21:41:20 |
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Take Care
Jim
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ICF372
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| 12/14/2001 10:09 PM |
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Right on Jim, any others?? there must be.
Eldon Howe
Edited by - ICF372 on 12/14/2001 22:10:44 |
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Eldon Howe
Howe Construction
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panelbuilt
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| 12/15/2001 2:09 PM |
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Unfortunately, I built the home I planned to spend the rest of my days above the ground in, in 1989,4 years before I began building with the new alternative building products.
I built my father a home last year using ICF's for the wall system and SIPs for the roof system.
We're designing my daughter's home with an ICF lower living walkout basement, post and beam, clad in SIPs and a Spec-lam roof system.
There isn't a client I've built for in the past 9 years that doesn't live in an ICF or SIP built home.
I'm stuck in my ( state of the art - at the time ) energy guzzling stick built home. Doesn't make sense to bulldoze down a
$ 400,000.00 investment.
Timing is everything.
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Rick
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| 12/17/2001 9:20 AM |
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Ok, how about this!
I live in a 35 year old block house, built when energy was cheap and plentifull. My walls were covered with strapping and drywall, no insulation. I had a house fire two years ago, and ice dams last year resulting in extensive flooding. My kitchen was trashed. I elected to repair the work myself, and decided to insulate my walls. I stripped them bare and attached Formtech panels to the block walls, re-ran my electrical and drywalled over them. I am already seeing the results over lower heating bills. My next house(whenever THAT happens) will defineitely be ICF constructed. So I'm partway there now. Does that count? |
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markross
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| 12/20/2001 12:23 PM |
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Nice Try Rick, but unless you have to pour concrete and get dirty, its not a fair evaluation. You MUST get covered in concrete for it to be ICF.
Mark Ross
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ICF372
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| 12/21/2001 7:42 PM |
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In all fairness Mark, Ricks, house dose count as long as it has many of the same comforts that an icf would have. It must be much warmer than a studframe home set upon a icf basement. Ricks house is built much like the house I grew up in. My own house is not total icf but all of the exposed walls are. I too became aware of icfs a little late.
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Eldon Howe
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markross
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| 12/24/2001 9:47 PM |
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Yeah Eldon, but he still did not get covered in concrete, and for Rick in ICF's, its just wrong.
Mark Ross
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Rick
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| 12/25/2001 2:27 PM |
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| Hey, I wheeled concrete when I was 18. Does that count? |
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