Our house design is 1600 sq. ft., basically a long rectangle with only a single step in one wall... very simple.  The foundation is a perimeter footing, then the 6" thick ICF walls extend up 12 feet, of which 31" are fill and a 5" thick slab leaving a 9' ceiling height.  There is also a detached garage that is 600 sq. ft. and 5" thick.  Concrete prices in our area about 85.00.

So why did out bid come back so high for the footing, ICF walls, slab, and garage slab?

Anyone care to estimate what this should cost in the Northwest?

Thanks!

Did you already get quotes on stick framing? If so, what was the dif? Crawl space or slab foundation? Don't forget the ICF includes insulation in the walls (only need to insulate atic) plus no ext. sheathing expenses for walls mat/labor.  I'm new to  ICF, did I leave anything out ol'timers on here? I hate to say it but you might have found someone trying to 'rip' you off also. We have verrrrrrryyyy few subs here that do ICF, so they think they can charge whateverthehell they can get away with!!!!........:(

well they didnt give us any prices. but agrees with the above poster you might be getting ripped.

 

i place bids on jobs againsts other companies all the time. one place is allways double what we quote. not sure why.

also remember you cant compair wall A to ICF wall B. like they said above you allready have your furring and insulation in place. but if you compair the entire house cost to the cost to do the entire house with icf. then it should never be more than 3-5% increase overall.

EEloy: What state are you in?

Dave

Ya, this sounds like a project we declined to quote (had nothing to do with the client), except concrete at $70 is a distant memory around here.

Define a HIGH PRICE please, perhaps you wanted a contractor without a license, insurance, worker's comp, etc. that should knock it down a fair bit

HI, We did not get a quote for stick. Yes, it is a slab on grade. We are in WA State and I have to make a correction, concrete is in the mid 70's /yard^3. The bid came back at 53k.  Any comments will be greatly appreciated.

1700 sq ft. for 53k well  I see it in the ball park.

For the shell  (footings, Slab, walls)
Try a sip bid, to get an idea?

I am looking up an old friend out your way maybe he can help?
I will get back here with the contact imfo.

Is it possible that the higher oil prices have caused the price of manufacturing the ICF Blocks to increase? What is a typical price of a 6" thick block per square foot?

The bid is roughly $31 per sq foot if you look at it another way.
Ooops it's even less, ..........you have a 600 sq ft SOG for your garage included.
If finished is $150 per sq ft in your area, it is not out of line A tall.

Price is a little higher than Mid west cost but seems in line with the N.E. Canada and N.W.

Dave

At 2,200 square feet... you are coming in between $24 to $33 a square foot, not too shabby really. What's your entire estimate, $140-60 a square foot?

It's not 2,200 square feet.  It is 1600sf of ICF walls.  The garage is only a slab.  Even though this may be in the 30sf range, we still have a long way to go.

I hate this per square foot of floor space bid comparison. You don't build houses per square foot.

How many linear feet of footing is needed? How many square feet of ICF wall is needed? How many corners? This is how houses get built, this is how SIP will provide bids, this is how your framer will provide bids, this is how your sheetrocker, painter, etc. all provide bids. They don't provide bids based on square feet of floor space. 1,600 s.f. of floor space could have many different configurations, some of which are far more efficient use of materials than others.

188.7 footing, 1986 sf ICF, 6 corners.

Ken & eeloy:
         
         re square footage:

         I agree, as I'm sure the others do, however the info provided by eeloy so far, is sketchy.

         I hate the sq ft comparison also, but until the money lenders real estate appraisers change their methods, 
           sq ft numbers will continue to be misapplied.

         And......wherever  eeloy is in the NW, the concrete price is unrealistic. $70 a yd, including winter heat, small stone and wra, I wish :-)

         What strength of concrete?
         ICF core thickness?
         Rebar schedule? Backfill height?
         Window and door openings? How many & sizes?
         Specialty /standard anchors?
         Excavation supervisory ?
         Compaction of granulars?
         Underfloor insulation?
         Weeper stone / french drains/sump boxes?
         Waterproofing?
         Flat work specs ? Square footages 
         Pumper rates ?
         Site accessability?
         
         other pertinent info etc etc.

What strength of concrete? 3k
ICF core thickness? 6
Rebar schedule? Not known but probably typical
Backfill height? NA
Window and door openings? How many & sizes? 12
Specialty /standard anchors? ?
Excavation supervisory ? NA This quote is for Footing, walls, and slab only. No dirt work
Compaction of granulars? NA
Underfloor insulation? NA
Weeper stone / french drains/sump boxes? NA
Waterproofing? NA
Flat work specs ? Flat
Square footages ?????
Pumper rates ? ?????
Site accessability? Easy

 Is your mud still $70 bucks too. LOL

This exchange reminds me of some of the  phone calls for pricing, we all get.

eeloy, perhaps your best route is to call another ICF contractor in your town, and get a complimentary bid.

This pumper friend of mine might be able to assist you. He is in Tonasket WA.

Chuck Gallup , Gallups Concrete Pumping & Telebelt 509 322 5080 cell. 509 486 1315 home.

OK, it's 85. Could you please comment, seriously?

In eastern WA there are ample inexpensive materials for making mud.

I would suspect Seattle is much different.