CANES
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| 02/23/2009 7:36 PM |
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As I stated in a previous thread through my research in and interest in building a new home in South Florida, I thought that the AcTech Panel was the best. With their situation right now, and possible exit from the market, I ask the experts on this board, which is the best type of SIP to build a structure from? I am looking for strength in wind resistance, energy efficiency, quick assembly, fire resistance, termite and mold resistance.
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cmkavala
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| 02/23/2009 8:04 PM |
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| We can get you lower insurance rates with our panels |
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Chris Kavala
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SimonD
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| 02/28/2009 1:38 AM |
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| If you want the best panel talk to Chris K. If you want the best drawings and design, talk to me. |
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SimonD
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| 02/28/2009 12:17 PM |
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CANES,
Actually, if you want a panel that is almost exactly like ACtechs panel in every way. Alumasheilds is the one you want. Similar lock configuration, 26ga G90 Steel, 2.4 #/cu ft Polyiso foam. I've designed several houses with them. They are located in Daytona Beach, FL
ps: If you are in South Florida, you need to meet impact codes for hurricanes and not every company jumps through those hoops to certify their panel, alumasheild might have that certification. It doesn't matter to me, if I know a material will work as a building component, I work around the bureaucracy.
The panels from Alumasheild that were used in the homes I've designed were 'B' grade panels. That means panels with a few cosmetic defects like scratches and peeling paint. In the right quantity, these panels can be purchased at quite a discounted price. They work fine for residential construction because they get covered up by other finishes like the siding and drywall. This is a good way to afford one of the best SIPs on the market. |
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Alton
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| 02/28/2009 5:45 PM |
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SimonD,
I have used AC Tech panels. Do you have a rough cost per SF for the B panels? Which series and thickness would you recommend for the central part of Alabama? |
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Alton C. Keown
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SimonD
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| 02/28/2009 6:34 PM |
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Alton,
Don't want to discuss price on this forum, however, you can contact me privately for details. I've used the AW400 4" for walls and roof and also 6" for roofs, it depends on the project. |
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SimonD
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| 02/28/2009 6:45 PM |
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| Here are some specs. |
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SimonD
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| 02/28/2009 7:02 PM |
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SimonD
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| 02/28/2009 8:02 PM |
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Here's an interior closeup photo. You can see the ribs in the panel skin. |
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CTP
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| 03/02/2009 2:45 PM |
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SimonD,
How do you achieve R-54.9 in a 6" panel? Also, why the need for all the furing strips? Just curious.
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Craig |
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SimonD
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| 03/02/2009 3:24 PM |
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CTP,
I don't achieve R-54, thats what Alumasheilds specs say. I don't really get into splitting hairs over that kind of stuff because when an R-value is quoted, a temperature range needs to be posted with it, or it doen't really mean anything. All I know is that the R-value is up there and is superior to many wall and roof assemblies.
The furring provides a space to run electrical wiring or water supply piping before the wallboard goes on, so that you don't have to cut into the panel or conceal wiring/pipes so a building inspector can't see them..
ps: In the specs it says " R-value by ASTM C 236, you can look that test up to see its criteria. |
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KwikBuild
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| 03/02/2009 6:13 PM |
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Using Kwik-Build Panels you do not need furring strips. Electrical chase ways are built-in. ON the exterior you can attach your siding or whatever type of exterior finish you like, directly to the panels. The interior can be drywall directly to the panels so again no furring. We have passed the test for Miami-Dade County, Florida for hurricanes. Our panels have been tested and held up to wind test of 225 mph.
They are also energy efficient, easy to assemble, 1 & 2 Hr fire resistance, termite and mold resistance.
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cmkavala
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| 03/02/2009 6:23 PM |
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Posted By KwikBuild on 03/02/2009 6:13 PM
Using Kwik-Build Panels you do not need furring strips. Electrical chase ways are built-in. ON the exterior you can attach your siding or whatever type of exterior finish you like, directly to the panels. The interior can be drywall directly to the panels so again no furring. We have passed the test for Miami-Dade County, Florida for hurricanes. Our panels have been tested and held up to wind test of 225 mph.
They are also energy efficient, easy to assemble, 1 & 2 Hr fire resistance, termite and mold resistance.
Kwik-Build KwikBuild;
how would we view the 225 mph test results and the 1&2 hour fire resistance data?
Do you have a website for that?
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randyfabal
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| 03/02/2009 6:48 PM |
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Have you also applied for product approval with Miami-Dade for impact resistance and high velocity area use? |
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KwikBuild
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| 03/02/2009 8:32 PM |
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Yes we have, and have certification on high impact resistance test also!
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cmkavala
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| 03/02/2009 8:34 PM |
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Posted By KwikBuild on 03/02/2009 8:32 PM
Yes we have, and have certification on high impact resistance test also!
Kwik-Build Thats great how do we see it?
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KwikBuild
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| 03/02/2009 9:02 PM |
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Tomorrow when I get into the office, I will put up the information to verify what I have stated!
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| 03/03/2009 9:28 AM |
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Our SIPS have the International Code Council Approval (see ICC Report #2406) and we also passed the Florida Building Code. Our panels do not support mold and insects are not interested in trying to eat cement board or foam. On average you can save 50% to 75% on your utility bills. The panels come to your job site numbered and go together quickly. As for fire rating you can check our website thermasave and see our fire test as well as our earthquake test. We currently have a 20 minute rating for homes and are in the process of getting a 1 hour for commercial buildings.
Do you think this is pretty much what you are looking for? |
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KwikBuild
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| 03/03/2009 10:56 AM |
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For my friends who wanted our info on the impact test.
Test performed by: Hurricane Test Laboratory Inc, Missile impact & cyclic load test, Three test performed, #HTL98072 Cert.#98-0127.02
I also have all the reports for: ICC, 1 & 2 Hr fire ratting, energy star, and UL.
email me for a copy of the reports, much too long to try and post here!
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cmkavala
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| 03/03/2009 11:31 AM |
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Posted By Haddock@Thermasave on 03/03/2009 9:28 AM
Our panels do not support mold and insects are not interested in trying to eat cement board or foam. Haddock;
aren't your splines, top& botom plates wood?
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