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cmkavala
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| 03/03/2009 11:38 AM |
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Posted By Haddock@Thermasave on 03/03/2009 9:28 AM
and we also passed the Florida Building Code. ?
Haddock we searched the FL. Product approval site and could not find your approval listsing? Is it listed as something other than "thermasave"?
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Haddock@Thermasave
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| 03/03/2009 12:20 PM |
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The splines are cement board same as the skins for the panels. You can use a type of plastic in place of wood for the top and bottom plates if you want to be more "green". |
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| 03/03/2009 12:33 PM |
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Haddock;
your ICC approval calls for wood top and bottom plates and would not be in accordance with the test criteria if you used a type of plastic.
The point is; you claimed no termite food or material condusive to mold. If the plates are wood, then they are termite food and prone to mold growth, if they are plastic then they will not meet the ICC approval.
What about the FL product approval # ? |
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| 03/03/2009 12:43 PM |
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| Our Florida approval is FL10146. What did you say your ICC number is? I don't need the whole report just the number. At the next printing of the ICC reports it will include the plastic. Also where exactly is your building? |
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| 03/03/2009 1:11 PM |
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Haddock;
Thanks for your quick reply. I did go on the site and found that you do in fact have FL product approval for walls/roof, but did not see the approval for floors? I am guessing you don't have that.
I also noticed that you did not have approval for High Velocity Hurricane Zones with the ICC or FL product approval |
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| 03/03/2009 1:29 PM |
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| I am sorry but I must have missed your ICC number. I might be looking in the wrong place. We do have the full Florida approval except for Dade County. At the time we did the tests we weren't aware they required a separate test. If you will look at the Florida Code you won't see floors. Where is your company located? |
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| 03/03/2009 1:46 PM |
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Posted By Haddock@Thermasave on 03/03/2009 1:29 PM
I am sorry but I must have missed your ICC number. I might be looking in the wrong place. We do have the full Florida approval except for Dade County. At the time we did the tests we weren't aware they required a separate test. If you will look at the Florida Code you won't see floors. Where is your company located? HVHZ applies to both Dade and Broward
We are builders and not required to have an ICC No.,
couldn't figure out the importance on your ICC report as it relies on out dated code information (2001 instead of 2004) and going to require an engineers seal anyway to build in Florida
Was also curious about how you overcome the shingle warranty if attached to a cement board panel.
We are located in Pasco County Florida, State Licensed in FL # CBC036455, Georgia # RLCO000624 and Louisiana #CL33845
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| 03/04/2009 11:34 AM |
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Chris,
Could you put on your Sip Supply Inc. hat and tell us what the ICC No. is for the panels you sell? |
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| 03/04/2009 5:05 PM |
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As a designer, I couldn't care less about ICC numbers. Having worked for a manufacturer and been responsible for getting these various certifications, I am well aware of their value or lack there of.
Personally, I assess a materials properties for use as a building component myself and in conjunction with my engineer, then determine if it is suitable to incorporate into a building.
I really dislike the economic pressure all this regulation/paperwork puts on manufacturers of building products. All one should need is manufacturers specs, recomended installation instructions and some kind of warranty, not a vague report from some association that got in good with the governent and now perpetually collects fees for a product to stay certified.
Anyway, I've been getting SIP projects through the building departments for 14 years, with or without certain documentation. Knowing the code well and having an engineer write letters and certify drawings on a case by case basic is the secret. |
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| 03/04/2009 9:42 PM |
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| Another piss match for whose stuff is best; great job guys. Keep turning customers off to an otherwise great system. |
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