The Obama Transition Energy Team wants your input!
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31 Dec 2008 09:46 PM
I copied the below from another forum.  

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The Obama Transition Energy Team wants your input!

Dennis Murphy is spearheading a multi pronged effort to move the benefits of increasing deployment of ground source heat pumps to the forefront of National Energy Policy discussions.

1) A group of industry representatives is working with the Obama Team to provide verifiable industry metrics in support of an energy efficiency stimulus proposal. Important areas are dollars invested, jobs created, energy saved, dollars saved and carbon mitigated. You are invited to take part in the effort by adding your input at http://forum.geoexchange.org/geothermal-geoexchange-forums/geoexchange-advocacy/energy-policy-obama-administration-367.html

2) Additionally you can help with compiling geothermal HVAC industry metrics at http://forum.geoexchange.org/geothermal-geoexchange-forums/geoexchange-advocacy/geothermal-hvac-industry-metrics-374.html#post1917



3) Discuss this announcement in the National Energy Policy thread. http://forum.geoexchange.org/geothermal-geoexchange-forums/geoexchange-advocacy/national-energy-policy-373.html#post1916

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31 Dec 2008 10:29 PM
This will only screw up the natural selection of good vs bad systems, supply and demand. Government should just stay out of our lives as much as possible. We are "green" because it is better, not because the government promotes it.
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31 Dec 2008 11:09 PM
Yes god forbid the gov. attempts to represent the best interest of its citizens , god forbid they give the same tax breaks to green corps. and consumers that they have been dumping into the fossil monster
And heaven forbid we start enforcing epa laws and make it a real agency that actually does investigations
and how intrusive of the dictator like president to be , to ask people to vote on what they find most important , dang pinko's

This is not a political site its a geothermal one , And the big government lie hasn't fooled or scared anyone .
A government of the people for the people and by the people

Dean I copied that sent it to a few hundred people , which should be good for about two votes ( one if you dont count mine )
thanks Im glad you posted that
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01 Jan 2009 10:30 AM
What's really needed is better education of dealers / installing contractors. Surgical federal aid could come in the form of grants to community colleges and other educators for advanced HVAC courses stressing residential and light commercial geo, energy efficiency, load calculations, zoning, duct design, loop field design, etc.

As winter wears on we are seeing repeated examples of excellent equipment badly installed at great expense. Nothing I can think of does greater harm to the growth of geo.
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01 Jan 2009 11:03 AM
Posted By engineer on 01/01/2009 10:30 AM
What's really needed is better education of dealers / installing contractors. Surgical federal aid could come in the form of grants to community colleges and other educators for advanced HVAC courses stressing residential and light commercial geo, energy efficiency, load calculations, zoning, duct design, loop field design, etc.

As winter wears on we are seeing repeated examples of excellent equipment badly installed at great expense. Nothing I can think of does greater harm to the growth of geo.

I agree completely
Dewayne Dean

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01 Jan 2009 11:19 AM
What got changed in editing that makes the text go beyond the right margin?
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01 Jan 2009 02:15 PM
Posted By Alton on 01/01/2009 11:19 AM
What got changed in editing that makes the text go beyond the right margin?

Not sure Alton,  it seems fine in my window.
Dewayne Dean

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01 Jan 2009 03:36 PM
What got changed in editing that makes the text go beyond the right margin?

Answer:
The government  bailed out/took over the formating

TEST:
#1. Name one thing the government has ever done effeciently.
#2. Name what the constitution says is the role of government.
#3. Do so without splitting your spandex riding panties.
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01 Jan 2009 04:07 PM

1- US post office a service and shows a constant proffit

2 - promote for the general welfare, provide national security, and insure domestic tranquility

Now hurry and run off to ask Andrew Wilkow what to say next
but thank you for proving that all republicans wouldn't poison all our grandchildren to protect the "rights" of polluters

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02 Jan 2009 11:44 AM

The government has consistently created "winners" and "losers" for technology by providing incentives for one over another. 
It's just that for the past 8 years those incentives were offered to oil and coal... and in trying to convince people that there is such thing as clean coal. 
I work in the air pollution regulatory field and see this first hand on a daily basis. 
While I still feel that diversification is the best strategy (including coal and oil), I think we, as a developed country, are way behind the times
in offering smarter incentives for greener technology. 
I just hope that this administration will follow through... I'm impressed that they are getting information from places like these forums though...
they are really going to the source rather than relying solely on illeged "experts in the field."

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