Standalone Geothermal Domestic Hot water?
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03 Oct 2010 01:13 PM
My 3 ton water to water unit actually keeps the house warm all winter, with the occasional fire in the woodstove. But my hot water is all electric. (no nat gas here). A desuperheater will provide some hot water during days the heating (or rarely cooing) runs, but it would add to the load of the 3 ton heat pump.

So I go looking for a standalone domestic hot water tank that uses a heat pump. There are none?!. There are some that have a small air based heat pump on top, which works well for the southern states, but nothing for up north here, where there is heat in the ground.

Then I found ONE in Europe. They look expensive, and there are no dealers here. The Heliotherm H300BE-WT PDF

What would be the closest thing to a standalone domestic system? My take would be two electric HW tanks, one connected to a small heat pump, the other as a finishing tank. The first would heat the buffer tank to say 110 - 120F, then the electric tank would be set at 130F or so. Then the recycle time of the Geo tank can be hours - the electric will take the extra load. I can't even find a 1 - 1.5 ton water to water unit to make this work?

Is there something that I am missing - or is this an opportunity? The price of electricity is going up fast.
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03 Oct 2010 03:00 PM
All of the stand alone geo domestic water systems we have done have all come out eventually. Space required for storage was to great, maintanance issues were a pain, the popularity of tankless with lp or natural gas has sky rocketed.
My best scenario concept allways involved desupraheater or water to water to a buffer tank and then to the tankless for finishing. The advantage to adding more equipment to a system that is allready efficient gave me pause from execution of the plan.
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03 Oct 2010 06:27 PM
If you have already a 3 ton W-W unit you can run the hot water tank as a zone thru a heat exchanger. You loose some degrees (5-7F) but 118 Degree water is still pretty hot. Works like a charm to me. Full time domestic hot water. It will steal more heat from your heatpump, if you set it to prioritize on the DHW.
www.buffalogeothermalheating.com
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04 Oct 2010 08:37 AM
A truly standalone water to water geothermal domestic water heater exists - WaterFurnace model EW020. It has a double wall and vented heat exchanger suitable for domestic hot water. However, it needs to be plumbed to a storage tank.
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04 Oct 2010 08:40 AM
I might do that. It may require quite a bit of plumbing, though. Thanks.
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