Is there anyone that has any experience with Daikin Mcquay. They make a GSHP that sounds very similar to the WaterFurnace 7 series. Variable speed compressor, fan and circulating pumps. In the pictures, it even looks like the WaterFurnace. But it sells for about half of what the 7 series goes for.

Waterfurnace does sell their equipment to other people like Trane and Geostar so its possible that Mcquay is buying the 7 Series from WaterFurnace but its not going to be a lower price unless its on the installers end. From what I know the only other variable capacity geo unit is the Climatemaster Tranquility 40 and its not supposed to be out for another year or so.

If you are getting your McQuay price from an over the counter sales firm (such as "Bob's Rain and Wind"), you are not getting the whole picture, nor all the components, permits, labor, tax insurance, warranty liability, excavation or materials your local dealer must include.

FWIW on multiple blog sites when polled, not one contributing pro carried McQuay.

I believe that this one uses the Daikin swing compressor.

I think I read that it is a swing compressor on the 3 ton, and a scroll for the 4 ton.

Is there something wrong with a swing compressor? I was hoping someone could comment on the quality of the equipment.

" I was hoping someone could comment on the quality of the equipment."

Perhaps "someone" has.

"FWIW on multiple blog sites when polled, not one contributing pro carried McQuay."

So basically no one has any experience with Daikin Mcquay. I have done some internet searches and not found much either.

Thank you Joe for the reply.

I have experience with Daiken and McQuay, but not this new line of heat pumps. I'm unaware of them being represented aside from OTC sales. Last I checked they did not have a resi distributor in my AO. That suggests difficulty in getting parts promptly when needed.
That might be fine, but there is a priced to be paid for having the first one on your block.

IMO, there could be a high quality piece of equipment and if the policies and profit figures weren't beneficial, installers wouldn't carry it.

That's true jonr. As it turns out most people in business seek "beneficial profit". You also have been around here long enough to know that I select equipment based on the support I recieve from my local supplier. No local support, no sale.

I know that is right. But I would think they would sell. They appear to have a product that is similar to the WF 7 series at about half the price.

Joe, you are so right. But how different is that than WF. I don't think there are any local WF distributors here. And I think they send parts out of a central warehouse. That was one of my concerns with them.

WF is dealer direct. It is not a business model I prefer, but it is superior to completely un represented.

By that I mean out of state middle man supplier that you have no history or relationship with, that likely charges you for expensive warranty parts first and returns your money in 30 to 90 days etc.

The only seller I know of of the McQuay's right now is such a company that offers telephone support only. That is different. It is an expensive island to be on if trouble arises.

Well, I have to agree with that.

I would prefer the 7 series, but at the price they want, it would take over 20 years to pay off. I would not expect the not expect the equipment to last 20 years. So it is really hard to justify the high cost of WF. That is why I started looking around and now found the Mcquay unit.

I'm really kind of mad at CM for announcing a new product that a year later, still has not out.

I (and the gov) would expect a quality geo heat pump to last 20+ years. Whether you own the house that long or can recover the cost in a sale are pertinent questions.

If something is 1/2 price for similar quality, I'd consider buying two and get 2x the service life and a fast time to repair. On the other hand, 1/2 price products sometimes produce 10x the problems.

I couldn't find any Daikin McQuay equipment on the Energy Star qualified GSHP list, a requirement for Tax Credit.

Have a look.
http://www.energystar.gov/productfinder/product/certified-geothermal-heat-pumps/results

That is a definite show stopper. But I had already given up on them anyway. I'm now looking at Carrier and CM. I called to get pricing on Carrier this afternoon and found out that I would have go through the comercial division. I'm not sure if I will be able to purchase the equipment or not. The guy I needed to talk to had already left for the day.

we carry many brands, none of them run as quite and comfortable as the waterfurnace (the new Bosch is on par with the ). But the variable speed is so pretty amazing. It comes at a price, but also consider comfort when making your decision.

I have not looked at the Bosch. How do the prices compare?

t58,
you keep saying WF is twice the price. I can tell you the difference in price for a dealer would be a minimal.

I don't think you are comparing apples to apples. Who are you getting the McQuay price from? Are you comparing installed price to over the counter price? Most of the heat pump manufacturers charge similar prices for their equipment.