In fact, I'm extensively seeing how the Ecobee tstats manage the set back temp to ensure cost effective start up.
What I'm seeing is, for heat pumps (air and geo) the Ecobee tstat, during night time set back, looks at the settings for how much 1st stage will be allowed, and 2nd stage allowed, before Aux turns on, then looks at outside temp versus inside temp, then continuously figures how much time is required to recover from the current set back temp without using any Aux. If the time required to recover is greater than the settings allow, then the set back temp setting is continuously modified during the night to ensure that when recovery starts, it will complete at the set point time without using Aux.
In other words, you can set a set back temp of something ridiculous, like 50°F (like I've done for experiment purposes), properly config tstat staging parameters, and then rest assured that the tstat actually will not allow ambient to get down to 50° during the night. It will let ambient only drop an amount that it knows it can recover from with Stage 1 and Stage 2 and no Aux.
If there's currently not much margin between heat pump capacity and what's needed for the structure at the current outside temp, then the Ecobee tstat will not allow a setback temp to drop much below ambient, even if a 50° (for example) set back temp is programmed in.
What this means is past advice to not use set back temp settings with heat pumps can be ignored with Ecobee tstats. Nest has the same capability. The Ecobee tstats will manage to a unique and variable set back temp each night.
BTW, all of the above is new learning for me so it's possible I don't have it quite right yet. I am seeing data that supports the above, as part of my own experiment (4 Ecobee tstats all set with 50° set back temps for the moment).
See another thread I've started that comments on a lot of what I've learned of the Ecobee tstats.
Best regards,
Bill |