goliath2005
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| 21 Nov 2018 10:56 PM |
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New to Icf construction. 1-2 man team hear we do about 40 foundations per year with aluminum forms but are just doing our first icf. Does anyone know if it is possible to do 2 rows at a time and pin them together with bar, also is it possible to do this with minimal bracing (just brace bottoms, and a few uppers per row) A guy would think after the first 2 rows were poured it would be secure. Just wondering from the experts. Thanks |
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sailawayrb
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| 22 Nov 2018 12:10 AM |
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It may have been better to post this in the ICF section. ICF walls are completely poured at one time and typically in three lifts of 3 to 4 feet each while vibrating each lift. This is done to avoid any cold joints and voids which would significantly weaken this structure. ICF bracing is required to ensure plumb and straight walls, and to ensure safety. |
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goliath2005
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| 22 Nov 2018 01:07 AM |
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Thank you for your imput, it makes sense. I was curious if on a 8' wall at 4' if I stopped and put a keyway and verticle rod every 2' ft if that would be strong enough. Thank you |
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sailawayrb
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| 22 Nov 2018 01:40 AM |
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Sure thing. Speaking of keyways, we always put one in the footing (just a 2x4 that is removed) in addition to the dowels when pouring an ICF wall. This makes for a much stronger wall. We do dowels and vertical rebar 12" OC for seismic. If you have a cold joint, you can recover strength by using drill and epoxy approach to place rebar, but you should first consult with licensed structural engineer in your State. |
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smartwall
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| 24 Nov 2018 01:45 AM |
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What idiot are you buying the forms from that can't answer these questions? Second thing, Nudura has an excellent training course that I would suggest you take. |
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newbostonconst
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| 24 Nov 2018 02:51 PM |
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smartwall, I am sure all your jobs go perfect and are the straightest walls I have ever seen with not a single blowout in your entire life.....Otherwise, your rude comments aren't needed..... |
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smartwall
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| 25 Nov 2018 03:51 PM |
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What is rude about asking where is the distributor invovlement? The questions goliath asked are icf 101 and yes my mono poured walls are straight with no blowouts after doing this for 14 years. |
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