PatrickT
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| 04 Apr 2007 08:45 AM |
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I have done a quick search of past posts on bracing. I saw where OKBlocker has made his own. Since I will be building 3 levels, I might have one heck of a rental bill so looking into building my own. I also can see extended retal time due to rain delays or just issues due to complexity of my project. I will need approx 50 sets of bracing. Does anyone know of a "kit" or key components to make your own? The main part I would like to find would be a turnbuckle threaded adjusting foot.
Any other ideas?
Patrick
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James Eggert
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| 04 Apr 2007 09:26 AM |
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In the past I have purchased the bracing brackets from Liteform in Ohio?, Iowa? someplace out there.
I buy turnbuckles by the 55 gallon drum here http://www.sciglobal.com/
With the above pieces you buy 16g metal studs for verticals, and 2x4s to attach the turnbuckles and plank with 2x10s as necessary.
Buy the turnbuckles with the sloped foot, not straight! |
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| Take Care<br>Jim<br><br>Design/Build/Consulting<br>"Not So Big" Design Proponent |
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fturkdal
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| 04 Apr 2007 02:42 PM |
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Building bracing is lots of work. If I were you, I would buy new set, use it for what I need than re sell and get some of the money back. It is easy to say for me. If you think about makes sence. Remember time and convenient worth MONEY too.
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JohnCujie
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| 04 Apr 2007 03:48 PM |
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That's a great idea! Anyone interested in used only once bracing? I guess about 40 sets. I have 220 lineal feet of wall. Available June 1 at the latest.
John
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James Eggert
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| 04 Apr 2007 05:46 PM |
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John I may be interested. Where are you located? And before you buy, discuss with the potential buyer which bracing package they prefer. Assuming you will only use it once, it would be better to get the brand someone is interested in! |
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| Take Care<br>Jim<br><br>Design/Build/Consulting<br>"Not So Big" Design Proponent |
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pairodime
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| 04 Apr 2007 10:33 PM |
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I would be interested. Where are you located? |
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JohnCujie
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| 04 Apr 2007 11:25 PM |
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I will be in Colorado, near four corners. I have no idea of the cost of bracing. Let me know the brand of choice and fair per cent of cost for the used sets. I will check into feasibility. Best to PM me on this subject from now on.
Thanks, John
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Cattail Bill
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| 05 Apr 2007 07:08 AM |
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Good Morning John:
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Cattail Bill
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| 05 Apr 2007 07:53 AM |
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Good morning John: The average bracing cost is between $150 and $250 per unit depending on the height of the wall you will need to brace, bracing is like the forms out there they all have good points and they all have some bad points. Based on what we rent our bracing for $3 per unit per day and the average experienced contractors that rent them it would take about 7 days of rent or $21 per unit. The important things to consider are the testing that has been done to insure that the product you buy will meet your needs as well as the support and instruction manual that is provided to insure that you can use it properly. I have a customer in Miles, Iowa that buys my bracing and is going to upgrade to the taller wall brace so he has a used set of 30 units for 8' walls he is asking $100 per unit, we sell our rental bracing once a year at $90 per unit granted they have been used many times but they do not wear out they do get run over with skid loaders from time to time but they do not wear out. With that info you can do the math to decide weather renting or making your own is worth it. The items needed to build your own set will be cheaper than what a set of lab tested factory built brace will cost but when you are done you do not have much if anything to sell you can use up some of the steel studs as well as the lumber that is used for the turn buckle you will still have all of the out riggers that you made to use as fire wood and some one will probably buy your turnbuckles. |
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PatrickT
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| 05 Apr 2007 08:38 AM |
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All,
I did a bit of searching for components to 'make your own' bracing. Western Forms had adjustable poles in common lengths. Poured walls R us, had turnbuckles. ICF Building products, had turnbuckles made to attach to 2x4s. They were $15 to $17 depending on qty. I called and he faxed me a DWG of How to make your own bracing from 2x4 and 3/4" plywood. Their website is not so good but..
With three levels to pour over the Summer, I'll get use use out of a purchace used and sell set or a home made set. Finding/buying/selling 60 sets of used bracing could be an issue. Building a set would take some time but I also don't discout being able to sell them when I'm done. In fact my ICF installer may be convinced to 'co-invest' with me. In the past he has rented and passed the cost to the owner.
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raceman017
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| 05 Apr 2007 09:10 AM |
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The guy who helped me do my walls had homemade bracing. His setup was awesome. It had plates that were tapconed into the slab, a C channel brace that attached to the wall, and an adjustable turnbuckle made from 1.5 inch square tubing. The design incorporated a catwalk mounted at 10 foot tall (with a hand rail/guard rail) Everything was attached with hitch pins and bolts. We poured 3 walls that were 14 foot tall in one day. One was 58' long and the other two were 28. If someone could lead me in the direction of how to post some pics, I could post a few so you could see his design.
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WolfCandy3x
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| 05 Apr 2007 01:00 PM |
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Hi Patrick, Could you se3nd me teh details, I'm in the same fix about Braces. 6 month of rental in my case would cost -+15000$ [email protected] |
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PatrickT
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| 05 Apr 2007 03:06 PM |
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WolfCandy3x
http://www.icfbp.com/pricelist.htmlCall 877-367-6626 I talked to a good guy named Tim. He said he designed the adjustable brace concept 10 years ago. As stated, he faxed a sketch. The sketch utilizes a 2x4 along the wall, a 3/4" plywood triangle/gusset attached(for walk board) and a 2x4 kicker attached at the middle of the 3/4" ply gusset. The adjustable tunbuckle is located at the foot of the 2x4 kicker. The vertical 2x4 can be attached via wire through the block between cources or use screws through the 2x4 into the IFC web Price had changed from prev post, $19.50 each turnbuckle. Larger qty can be lower. I ordered 1 pc to check it out. They also have a nylon gusset kit that accept studs metal or wood and a slot for hand rail components. Patrick T |
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PatrickT
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| 10 Apr 2007 08:40 AM |
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The adjusting turnbuckle came in. This is one heavy duty pc of hardware. Simple construction. The turnbuckle has a 1.5 x1.5 angle iron on one end and a angled foot on the other. The turnbuckle itself is a made of 7/8" cource round tread round stock. It threads into a 3" length of coil spring, hence the 'round threads. The coils, L-thread and R-thread, are connected via 4 bars. Rotate the 4 bars/coil assembly and the bracket gets longer or shorter. Looks like one turn will net 1/4" of movement.
Any one looking for parts to make your own adustable bracing, this is a good source at a good price.
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ContractorPete
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| 10 Apr 2007 11:49 PM |
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Curious to see what it looks like, could you post a pic of one by chance? |
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irnivek
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| 11 Apr 2007 08:21 AM |
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Patrick: John Finn at www.rocksolidconcretehomes.com is located in Bedford and can help you with bracing, as an option.
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