jeepster
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| 01 Mar 2012 05:44 PM |
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Do you guys hang your cabinets directly to the plastic strips in the foam, or do you route the foam out, tapcon a 2x and anchor to that, or are there other methods?
Sean
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Chris Johnson
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| 01 Mar 2012 05:51 PM |
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Cabinets can be fastened directly to the webs, care should be taken not to over tighten as the screw can strip. If you have your cabinet layout, draw it on the wall and fasten 1/2" plywood in this area, I keep the plywood about 1" in from the line, drywall can butt to it, when cabinets are hung you never see the change in material and the cabinet guy has a wide range of places to fasten his cabinets to. |
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smartwall
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| 02 Mar 2012 09:44 AM |
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Ditto |
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jeepster
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| 02 Mar 2012 11:21 PM |
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Thanks guys. That sounds like a good idea. By fastening a sheet of plywood in the area behind the cabinets, one could get quite a few screws into those webs. One of the cabinet installers that I spoke with said he simply fastened a screw through the cabinet and straight into a web. This didn't sit well with me, since my experience with the process of screwing braces to the webs during block stacking, I was quick to discover how easy it is to strip the web out. On a side note, are there any tricks, comments, or ideas on the best way to rough wire for under cabinet lighting? Or do you guys have any suggestions on lighting types. I have found where you can buy tape LED lights, which sound intriguing to me. http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/index.cgi?action=DispPage&Page2Disp=%2Fmini_tubes.htm |
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smartwall
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| 03 Mar 2012 09:40 AM |
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Use plywood not osb. |
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ICFconstruction
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| 05 Mar 2012 07:30 AM |
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Mostly the cabinet guys have screwed right to the webs. With BuildBlock they have the heavy duty attachment points with 450# pull out. The plywood is good insurance, works for base too. |
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emmetbrick
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| 06 Mar 2012 02:20 PM |
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2X- What Chris Johnson said. |
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FBBP
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| 06 Mar 2012 11:35 PM |
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Posted By Chris Johnson on 01 Mar 2012 05:51 PM
Cabinets can be fastened directly to the webs, care should be taken not to over tighten as the screw can strip. If you have your cabinet layout, draw it on the wall and fasten 1/2" plywood in this area, I keep the plywood about 1" in from the line, drywall can butt to it, when cabinets are hung you never see the change in material and the cabinet guy has a wide range of places to fasten his cabinets to.
Chris - have you ever had a SCO condemn that method because he figures it doesn't provide the thermal protection required?
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Chris Johnson
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| 06 Mar 2012 11:39 PM |
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Do you mean fire protection? or air barrier protection? Anyways, answer is no one has ever failed it, most compliment it as it is a good idea and it works. |
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TexasICF
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| 07 Mar 2012 08:37 AM |
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Just FYI another very similar way to do this is to route out the foam to the web typically 1/2 inch to 5/8 of an inch and then put your plywood on directly to the webs and then put your sheet rock on top of that. It's a little more work but provides the sheet rock fire barrier and it's slightly stronger because you avoid the small cantilever of the screw in the foam. This approach maybe a little bit of overkill but that's how I usually do it short of attaching directly to the concrete. I once did 150 or so these one time in a hotel for heavy curtains. You may also use this approach for the occasional situation where you have to show the sheet rock. Regards. |
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