ICF-Slab on Grade-Float or Support
Last Post 29 Jul 2023 03:22 PM by newbostonconst. 3 Replies.
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26 Jul 2023 03:43 PM
Hello,

We are wanting to build a new slab home using ICFs. We are in Zone 4 Midwest US, with a frost depth of about 30".  For frost heave protection, my plan is to pour a footing 30" in the ground and then build up our ICF walls from there, around 12 ft high.  Then backfill the inside with rock to get the slab height above grade and pour it.  The information that seems be lacking when building this type of home is how to properly pour a slab after the walls are complete.  My original thought was to use the brick ledge ICF form on the interior, at the slab height, so when we pour the slab it will be tied to the brick ledge.  However, I read instances where builders say to just float the floor over a good compacted base, not tying it to the walls at all.  Can moisture come up between the walls and slab in this case?

I dont like the idea of setting the walls on a monolithic slab.  It seems wrong to put all the weight of a icf wall on the edge of a slab, not centered over the footing.  Is that wrong of me to worry about?

Thank you in advance for the help! 
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27 Jul 2023 03:40 PM
Your plan is good. Pour the 12ft wall with dowels sticking into the slab area (#4 bars at 18" o/c L-shaped 8" down into wall and 24" into future slab). The slab gets poured around the dowels and against wall EPS. Under the slab you should have about 2-4 inches of EPS - this way the slab is insulated on its sides and from underside. The poly should go on the gravel but it gets punctured so it goes on top of the EPS prior to slab pour.
No need for a ledge. Consider using epoxy coated dowels as they are not fully encased in concrete (for about 2-3 inches in ICF wall EPS).
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28 Jul 2023 01:44 PM
Consider using GatorBar rebar from https://gatorbar.com/ It won't rust and may cost less than epoxy coated rebar. Use this website to find nearest GatorBar dealer.
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29 Jul 2023 03:22 PM
Floating shouldn't be a problem is ground is solid and not settling. Holding it on the foundation wall is not going to help if you have settling in the center and it cracks somewhere in between.
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