I have no idea what the numbers look like, but at and just below the floor level seems like an area where extra diagonal truss wires could be useful. I would be careful with adding rebar because of the point load potential.

SCIP not so new

I would like to know more about the role of SCIP in building a 35 story hotel in Japan. I saw a model of a ten Story SCIP building that is in planning stages.

I know of a hospital where SCIP has been chosen or is being considered.

Pictures in link below.

http://www.globalpanelsolutions.com/GlobalPanelSolutionsBrochure.htm

 

COMPLETED PROJECTS - SPACE FRAME PANEL CONSTRUCTION

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107-Ontario 75-Rialto

40-Perris 35-Chino

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H U D approvals have been issued for panel construction in various areas

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WOC Las Vegas

 

Is anyone going to the World of Concrete expo in Las Vegas?

 

I will be checking out these guys Global Panel Solutions any other relevant suppliers , manufactures or SCIP related displays.

http://www.globalpanelsolutions.com/GlobalPanelSolutionsBrochure.htm

I plan to be there.  Be sure to wear a name badge that says SCIP Panel on it so I will recognize you.  Of course, I will be wearing my blue and orange AU cap to show my support for Auburn University Tigers.  My name badge will read Alton Keown.  My cell number: 334 329-0957.   Who else will be there?

In February I plan to attend the International Builders Show in Orlando.  Great show also.  WOC and IBS are my two favorites.

Forum members.  I've posted an update to my SCIP project blog

http://waterfrontbuildinginpanamacity.blogspot.com/

jrobicheaux,
I have followed your blog with extreme interest, and have in fact sent my own plans to Mr. Majure for a quote. I am only about 6 hours north of PC, so I may get myself down there to watch your SCIP process and pour! Can you send me an update when you think they will start to shoot the concrete? thanks!
Catherine

Catherine,

I plan to see the SCIP project in Forida about the middle of February on my way back from the IBS show in Orlando.  Will your project be located in Georgia?

Thanks for the update. One question. Do you have any concerns with the metal exposed at the perimeter of the columns due to the "mesh standoffs"?

A couple of things to mitigate that.


1.  The columns are all inside the structure so not exposed directly to weather.
2. The Mesh is galvanized which helps
3. Any visible mesh will be notch ground down before the final 1/2 inch plaster coat.

There are no guarantees.

Alton, you and I have emailed a few times! :) My house will be about 45 min south of Atlanta. I am still awaiting a quote, so I have no idea if the SCIP panels will be in my price range. Once I get some idea of cost, I will need to sit down and really figure out what I can cut to make it work. After another tornado warning in my county last night, I love the idea of a storm stronghold! Jrobicheaux, how are you finishing the interior walls? Are you framing some walls? And what sort of paint/plaster/etc are you planning for the interior. I know you are using Tabby for the exterior- that sounds really perfect for your location! Also, what sort of cellphone reception/wifi do you think you'll have? Seems to me that you will have to have a repeater inside the home, and I wonder if that will be enough for cellphone reception?

Thanks Catherine.  I am in Las Vegas attending the World of Concrete and could not check my recent e-mails to see if I already had your info.

Any regular posters attending the World of Concrete.  If you want to meet, my cell number is 334 329-0957.

Posted By Alton on 24 Jan 2012 12:35 AM
Thanks Catherine.  I am in Las Vegas attending the World of Concrete and could not check my recent e-mails to see if I already had your info.

Any regular posters attending the World of Concrete.  If you want to meet, my cell number is 334 329-0957.

Let us know what new or interesting things you find at the show!

Catherine

-Ground floor all interior walls are Plaster covered SCIP
-Second (living) level Most SCIP walls are Tabby, some in closets, mechanical rooms and pantries are plaster.
-There are some interior non-load bearing partition walls on the Second level they will be 2X4 stud walls with sound batting and covered with wall board and painted.

Cell phone coverage:

The existing coverage in the area is awful.  I have T-Mobile but am unable to establish a reliable connection standing out in the open even if roaming to other carriers.  Not a concern, I'm able to reliably connect over my neighbors WiFi.  All smart phones can do this.  The house will be WiFi equipped so I don't think I'll have an issue.  Besides I may just throw all my cell phones away.

Jim

Jrobichaux, great informative blog, thanks for sharing!

In your blog you were considering an elevator.  Have you looked at a pneumatic elevator?  They don't require a pit so cheaper setup.  I have no experience with them but may be something to take a look at.

Yes, I looked but not very hard.  I couldn't fall in love with the acrylic tube.  Right now I have elevator provisions.  The largest poured column in the design is in fact, the elevator load wall.  It's 4.5 ft X 10 inches and goes all the way to the roof.  The pit is already part of the foundation and the floor aperture above it is the only framed lumber floor in the house.  It can be ripped out easily when I'm ready to proceed.  My architect tells me that hydraulic is both cheaper and more reliable than the cable drum variant.

When you say hydraulic, are you referring to the piston driven type?  If so, verify scheduled maintenance and reliability.

Posted By FBBP on 23 Jan 2012 12:29 PM
Thanks for the update. One question. Do you have any concerns with the metal exposed at the perimeter of the columns due to the "mesh standoffs"?

A picture is worth a few hundred words.  Looks like the Mesh Cage and Standoffs worked just peachy with no voids.  The steelwork for this column went up 10 ft and the concrete lift stopped at 8 ft.  It will go up an additional 2 ft to meet a beam. 

An added benefit just in the horizontal.  On a per ft basis, the area of the steel in the Mesh is equivalent to adding an additional 3/8 in stirrup and unlike the rebar its galvanized.

If the wire mesh standoffs have a G90 galvanized coating, then there should not be any concern about the wire mesh rusting.  If the wire mesh has less coating than a G90, then the finish coat over the shotcrete may be enough to keep oxygen from reaching the mesh.

 Researching (SCIP) Structural Concrete Insulated Panels

I am currently talking to one of the inventers of the earliest record of SCIP Panels I have been able to locate.

 

After talking to one of the inventers of the SCIP system I now know the rest of the story you might say.

I posted on a forum about a 35 story in Japan of SCIP Panels.

I have since found out the building was not built in Japan or of SCIP panels.

The building was built in Singapore and elevator shaft is where the panels were used.

Other buildings I am researching.

Houses built in Haiti before the earth quakes that were undamaged.

 

Houses build in Miami area built before Hurricane Andrews that were undamaged or still habitable where most all other houses in the area were not livable.

 

A house that was filled with mud from ST Helens volcano erupted. They remover the mud and power sprayed the house, replaced windows and doors and the house was good as new.

 

Posted By Alton on 03 Feb 2012 09:58 AM
If the wire mesh standoffs have a G90 galvanized coating, then there should not be any concern about the wire mesh rusting.  If the wire mesh has less coating than a G90, then the finish coat over the shotcrete may be enough to keep oxygen from reaching the mesh.

Alton - I was concerned about the fact that the standoffs were site formed therefore assume open end cuts. OP stated that all columns were interior which makes it somewhat of a moot point. I would question the contention that they have a value equal to a 3/8" stirrup as they would not have full one inch concrete cover neither are they in position to perform that function but again this would have been over and above design so not important. Bob