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eric monkman
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| 04 Dec 2011 09:53 PM |
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Clark, that is very nice work with both the shutter boxes and the granite sills. Impressive ! |
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eric monkman
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Lbear
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| 04 Dec 2011 10:30 PM |
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Posted By Clark on 04 Dec 2011 07:25 PM
Yes, when the siding was installed, I placed some felt paper over the plywood cover to divert any water that might be driven up behind the Hardie board siding.
I, too, only installed the shutters on four larger windows which are exposed to strong sun rays late in the afternoon. I did recess all of my windows, though, for uniformity of appearance.
I'm glad I was able to give you some ideas and I hope your design works out well. Be sure to let us know how you do and include a couple of photos.
How did you secure the wood framing to the ICF? I assume you used 2x6 wood for the shutter reel assembly area, correct? |
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Clark
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| 05 Dec 2011 09:05 AM |
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Lbear, it's hard to explain in words. Send me a private message and I'll send you a window detail drawing. --Clark |
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solar geek
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| 10 Dec 2011 01:33 AM |
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We have just finished the design for the windows in our currently being built ICF home and we too have struggled with what to do with the deep sills. We have decided to use beautiful tiles, similar to homes in Europe, on each sill. We did not find granite to be cost effective (although I loved the look). Our main concern is not to have wood as we are aggressively passive solar and we found with the last home, I was literally sealing and restaining the window sill wood each year - way to much maintenance!
Re the rolling shutters, we had spec'ed them for all the windows, then just for the south facing windows. We had to drop that idea as the quotes (one was the Rollac) DOUBLED the price of the windows. And that was without the electric setup- Yikes:( Wish we could have done it but with quotes from $27,000 + we just could not fit them into our budget.
It may be that they are more reasonable in the South where there are hundreds of dealers/installers. Here in the north, we had to get people in from a state away to get quotes and installation.
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Lbear
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| 10 Dec 2011 03:08 AM |
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Posted By solar geek on 10 Dec 2011 01:33 AM
We have just finished the design for the windows in our currently being built ICF home and we too have struggled with what to do with the deep sills. We have decided to use beautiful tiles, similar to homes in Europe, on each sill. We did not find granite to be cost effective (although I loved the look). Our main concern is not to have wood as we are aggressively passive solar and we found with the last home, I was literally sealing and restaining the window sill wood each year - way to much maintenance!
Re the rolling shutters, we had spec'ed them for all the windows, then just for the south facing windows. We had to drop that idea as the quotes (one was the Rollac) DOUBLED the price of the windows. And that was without the electric setup- Yikes:( Wish we could have done it but with quotes from $27,000 + we just could not fit them into our budget.
It may be that they are more reasonable in the South where there are hundreds of dealers/installers. Here in the north, we had to get people in from a state away to get quotes and installation.
Wow, $27k for shutters is insane. Was that the entire home or just the south windows? Shutters are more common in the west & east coast. Maybe being that far north, you don't get insane summer sun and no hurricanes, therefore shutters are not common. Post pics once you are done with your window trim... |
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ICFHybrid
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| 10 Dec 2011 09:24 AM |
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We did not find granite to be cost effective If you ask the stone folks "How much to do up our window sills in granite?", it's going to be one price, but if you ask "How much for those granite discards?", I think you will find it much more affordable. |
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ICFHybrid
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| 10 Dec 2011 09:29 AM |
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I was literally sealing and restaining the window sill wood each year What part of having a "passive solar" affected that the most, do you think? |
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solar geek
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| 17 Dec 2011 01:16 AM |
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Posted By Lbear on 10 Dec 2011 03:08 AM
Posted By solar geek on 10 Dec 2011 01:33 AM
We have just finished the design for the windows in our currently being built ICF home and we too have struggled with what to do with the deep sills. We have decided to use beautiful tiles, similar to homes in Europe, on each sill. We did not find granite to be cost effective (although I loved the look). Our main concern is not to have wood as we are aggressively passive solar and we found with the last home, I was literally sealing and restaining the window sill wood each year - way to much maintenance!
Re the rolling shutters, we had spec'ed them for all the windows, then just for the south facing windows. We had to drop that idea as the quotes (one was the Rollac) DOUBLED the price of the windows. And that was without the electric setup- Yikes:( Wish we could have done it but with quotes from $27,000 + we just could not fit them into our budget.
It may be that they are more reasonable in the South where there are hundreds of dealers/installers. Here in the north, we had to get people in from a state away to get quotes and installation.
Wow, $27k for shutters is insane. Was that the entire home or just the south windows?
Shutters are more common in the west & east coast. Maybe being that far north, you don't get insane summer sun and no hurricanes, therefore shutters are not common.
Post pics once you are done with your window trim...
I too was stunned to find out the cost of the shutters and very disappointed not to be able to afford them now. We will still get the electric prepped on the south wall in case we find more money (LOl!) I will post pics but it will not be done likely till summer as we are going to live in the house few months before deciding what tiles to use. |
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solar geek
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| 17 Dec 2011 01:20 AM |
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Re the passive solar and refinishing the window sills, we just found that even though the sills were protected in summer (past house I am speaking of), in winter we got heavy sun 9ish to 4 or so and they simply dried out from the sun.
Re the granite discards, we did actually ask about that but the cutting of each piece to fit was where the costs came in. You are right the discards are not expensive but cutting is - at least where we live.
We also have granite in the kitchen and baths so are looking to mix up the look a bit and really do love the European look of tile sills. |
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TexasICF
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| 21 Dec 2011 09:04 AM |
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Lbear, I apologize for overreacting a bit in an earlier post -- I suppose I have a breakdown when I hear the words "tried and true";). Anyway, here are some additional ideas for you. In above photo the buck is ripped to the depth that you want to set the window. In this case you have a two inch rip all the way around (shown still in place). When you take off this strip of predetermined depth you can set your window whereever you wish. In this case the target was glass flush with exterior so the rip was about 2". Result is window glass flush with exterior plane. Of course you could use a 4" rip etc. Also, some installers will build buck normally but larger and then later put in extra wood to support window at desired depth. Regards.
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TexasICF
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TexasICF
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| 21 Dec 2011 09:10 AM |
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 Finished on outside. FYI -- all parapet walls also poured. |
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TexasICF
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| 21 Dec 2011 09:12 AM |
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Finally, regular thick wall inside look. This house was all stone so walls were very thick even though ICF was only 6" (11 1/4") overall. Regards.
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ICFHybrid
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| 21 Dec 2011 09:35 AM |
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You are right the discards are not expensive but cutting is - at least where we live. If you really want the granite, you just need to try harder to find a reasonable cutter. Sometimes, the cutting cost takes into consideration possible breakage at $40-$50/sf. If you are buying the material at $6/sf, breakage should be your cost and cutting should be much less. Transport and handling might be another cost you can defray. If you go to the wholesaler, buy the discards and transport them to the cutter, the price shouldn't be too high. I just saw a bunch of Uba Tuba at $75/ a piece for 83" X 20" pieces. Nice and long for big windows, but too narrow for a countertop. That can even be ripped down the middle by a DIY'er for the cost of a diamond blade and a water nozzle. That's $37.50/sill for the material. |
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Lbear
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| 22 Dec 2011 03:33 AM |
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TexasICF -
Thanks for the photos! It's good to see different ideas on how to finish the interior window ledges.
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