Posted By Ray P SIPS on 20 Jan 2011 06:24 PM
I am looking for a non OSB facer approved to span 12 feet in a roof application. Is there a product with or without wood / metal joists in the panel. 10 inch EPS with MGO or Fiber Cement??
Ray [email protected]

Ray our metal faced SIPs do not have any joists, splines or stiffeners. They are solid core foam to foam friction fit joints and 10" will span much farther than 12 ft. , probably closer to 24 ft. depending on what loading you are looking for

Hello Mr. Brad,

My name is Shahin, I am working with reputed factories in China which manufactures construction machineries and materials. I am into this business for near 6 years by now, and i have dealings with the best suppliers in China for different types of construction based products. I might be able to suggest you some of the professional manufactures as per your requirement.

My contact details are given below, if you are willing to spare some of your precious time to have a chat with me.

Email: [email protected]
SKYPE: hishahin

Regards

Shahin K

Here'a a link to a company in NJ that makes MGO faced SIPS:

http://www.tristatesips.com/index.html

Paramount,

Thanks for the link.  Now only if they had a plant in the Southeast.  Lakewood NJ is a long ways from Alabama by truck.  Does anyone have any idea about their prices for MGO faced SIPS?  Or the details they use when building with this type of SIP?

I am not sure about the quality of MGO boards. There are much fewer imports last year than before. For 12', we may try Armorplank fiber cement board carried by Ectek.

We just certified a MagWall MgOSIPS plant in Denver..our MgO Board side did more business in the 1st qtr of this year then all of last year..Wayne if my memory serves me correctly dont you work for Armorplank..if you want MgO SIPS call Luke Goodhue @ 303 522 4442

mag sir,

How many mgo tactories you visited? how is it compared to fiber cement factory?

Which standard your mgo board meets in US or Europe if there is one?

Show us your certification of the mgo board and mgosips ?

How could some one certify some thing without a standard?

We own our line in China..I have been to dozens of MgO board plants in China over the last several years.....check out AC 386 for standard in the US... ask Luke Goodhue he can answer all your questions he is the only authorized dealer in the United States for both MagBoard and MagWall

We also just put a MagWall plant in Jamaica.. MagWallJamaica dot com ..if you need the technology in the Caribbean give Sam Catling a call..he will take care of you..his direct line is on his web site

AC 386 is an evaluation criteria and most of the structural properties has to go with AC 367 set up on ASTM standard of fiber cement board. ICC- ES don't set up standards, they provide evaluation service based on the standards set up by other standards organizations like ASTM, AWWA, ANSI.

Anyone with money could set a evaluation criteria with ICC-ES.

$300k could set up a mgo factory in China.

AC 386 is about fiber-re-enforced mgo board. Not about the mgo board most of us are talking here. There is only one mgo board standard ever made is in China, which is about what we talk about here which does not specify any fiber content, nor for any structural applications.

There are lots of confusions above.


Glad that you have something made non-combustible and structural, like Fortocrete does?

I bought a container of Magnum Board, and could not be happier. I can't wait to use is in my new building. I got the tapered egde 10mm for the ceiling board and 8mm non-tapered for the walls. I hope we can do the seams on the non tapered.

Brad.. shouldn't you let the readers know that you are a Magnum board distrbutor,,and make money selling Magnum Board .. and by the way 8 mm board is not a good choice for walls..and the seams are no problem if you know how to do it..it's a little differnt then dry wall

no offense..just a back door way to plug your product don't you think

Yes. I am pluggin MgO and Magnum board, and am very happy with the response from customer's. I am glad to find an alternative to gypsum drywall and so are they. I chose Magnum Board because they provided the best service and price of anyone I talked with.

Why do you say 8mm is not a good choice for walls?

Magnum Board advocates using Rapid Set One Pass for seams.

Some might think the way you posted it a little deceiving about your motivation nobody would know you sell Magnum Board for a living... and your 1st mistake is you never buy MgO Board on price.. you get what you pay for...you can buy 1/2 inch MgO Board if thats what you want to call it for less then 5 bucks..all I can say is good luck

Don't pretend to know my motivation, I don't make my living selling Magnum Board. My motivation for buying MgO board is I wanted it for my place. I made no mistake in buying Magnum Board, I did, and do believe Magnum Board is the best MgO board company in the US.

Negativity, like yours, is a big reason why I did not buy from your company. I got the same attitude when I spoke to your company representative some months ago.

You have never seen our board.. so you don't know if you bought the best board.. you are jumping to conclussions ..if you call telling the truth negative that is your progative ..we have an accredited third party lab ..stamp our boards ..i have bought your board there is no stamp from any quaility contol organization on it at all ...you have no idea where it comes from do you
I dont want to get into a pissing contest with you..but we spent the money and jumped through the hoops..and have not cut any corners I expect everybody selling board to the unexpectant public to do the same..jumping into this industry without knowing what your selling can damage the Mgo Building product industry here in the US...If you want to start a MgO Association so everybody plays on the same playing field..I'm all in... I'm sure if you give me a call...I can prove to you..that nobody on the planet has the connect the dots from production to testing to the end user..just the facts my man.. and like nobody else in the US I can show you a quailty control manual... ask your supplier for one

By the way Brad I just pulled your name up on the Magnum Board web site.. as a seller of Magnum Board..so I guess I know a little about your motivation..you want to make money ...right.. just be careful dude..do your homework

will someone please tell me which board has ICC approval?

All anyone can do is, do their own research and make up their own mind. That is what I did. I posted on this thread as a consumer of MgO board, express my concerns and to say I am satisfied. I reviewed Magnum Board's testing summary on their website and my local building official reviewed and approved it. I did not say I choose Magnum Board strictly based on price. But it would be naive to think that price is not a major factor, people want to know what a premium building product is going to cost them. MgO board is a great product and it is about time we have a better alternative to gypsum drywall. MgO is also better than OSB in many situations. I know of a house here in MN that is MgO sips, made by EarthCore SIPs in CO, for all the above and below grade exterior walls. I had a mishap while unloading the truck; I dropped 30 sheets on the corner of the truck, then the ground. If it had been gypsum I am sure I would have been looking at pile of rubble, but with MgO board only some edges where chipped. Very strong stuff.