Faulty Earthlinked DX systems
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02 Jan 2011 08:36 AM
Geo has a much poorer pay back against nat gas, but should not cost more energy to operate if working correctly.
You'll notice I said energy not money. Earthlinked enjoys a good reputation.
Unfortunately as I often say, things that are made by people and installed by people have lots of opportunity to fail.
Folks who have Earthlinked problems may wish to start their own threads so they are not buried on page 20 of this one. That way folks who would like to help can read all responses before offering advice.
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08 Jun 2011 12:10 PM
This is just a follow up of my continuing nightmare.  There was a visit in early February by the Earthlinked " expert", who cannot find anything wrong as expected.  I have stopped using geothermal entirely and back to my gas furnace(thank God, I have back up).  Also last summer, my entire house was Aerosealed and certified by them with all ductwork sealed to the best possible extent. 

The 5 Ton unit alone continues to use 58 kwh on 89 deg day over a 24 hr period(cost on 5T alone  per day around $10),  thermostat at 77F and my 4T unit runs all the time , struggling to even maintain 81F(the meter on this gave up, I won't know what it has consumed) and had to be turned off.  My 2T unit set at 78F uses 12 kwh. 

                       I have sent repeated requests to both the contractor and Mike(distributor of Earthlinked) to just replace them with my original air conditioners and they are still debating if 58 kwh is too much for a 5 Ton machine to use in a day.  I truly don't care.  At this point. I just want to get back to being able to afford being comfortable as I did with my original A/C set at 75F all day long.

 My entire bill with my original units(cooling, sprinklers everyday in summer and lighting circuits included and gas for cooking and hot water was $450), taking into account energy cost increases over 3 years.

At this rate, I will spend over $1000 per month on utilities alone!  

Earthlinked has done absolutely nothing other than visiting me once every year and telling me that their units are working as they should. 
Their unit needs to rated as a piece of junk!




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12 Jun 2011 08:55 AM
I'm sorry I've no advice to add at this point.
I assure you perspective Earthlinked customers and dealers are following your saga.
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15 Jun 2011 07:37 PM
I really wish they could figure it out for you. I have no suggestions at this point, either. Yours is definitely confusing, and it's also a big exception to the rule. My EarthLinked system is cooling my home wonderfully right this moment. And it's doing it very efficiently. We have numerous EarthLinked systems with sub-meters on them, and they all perform very well. I really would like to know what is going on with your system.


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25 Jun 2011 07:09 PM
I have an Earthlink system in MIchigan and it works perfect. My suggestion to the customer with high electric use
first find out if Temperature diference across the coil multiply that by CFM and Multiply that by 1.08 The answer is the amount of btu's the coil is giving you in heating mode, or removing in the cooling mode.

Mine is 23TD X 1900cfm X 1.08 =47,196 btu's
If the performance is good. Check the Amp draw with a clamp on amp meter. A4 ton should draw 16- 17 amps. Mine draws 14.1-14.5 amps.

Multiply Voltage by the Amperage that will give you wattage. 14.5 X 240 =3480 divide by 1000 = 3.48KW X 6 and a half cents/KWH = aproximatly 23 cents and hour to run.


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26 Jun 2011 04:02 PM
I would find someone who can measure COP for you.


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04 Jul 2011 09:50 AM
I finally got my JUNK Earthlinked DX systems changed  back to my original ordinary A/C units and I figured that you all would be interested in knowing the results.

Here goes: 2T still on geothermal since I don't have regular A/C option on this .  The 96F high is the highest temp of this season yet!  I will post the geothermal reads before that on the next post.

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        2T

     4T

       5T

        Total Units and High Temp(12 hr run at night)

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Reads taken at  6PM

                         

Regular A/C turned on 06/30/11

 

 

 

06/30/2011

    7231

     3627

      6683

              82F

07/01/2011

    7236

     3641

      6696

32kwh,  87F

07/02/2011

    7243

     3666

      6718

54kwh,  96F

07/03/2011

    7248

     3691

      6741

53kwh,  87F



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04 Jul 2011 10:06 AM
My geothermal reads before I got the systems replaced.  The 4T unit ran all the time struggling to maintain 81F and had to be turned off!  All reads taken with thermostat at 77F for correct comparison between regular A/C and geo.

    2T                                 4T                                 5T

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06/04/11 TURNED ON AT 5PM

    

 

 

       89F

06/05/11 5PM READ

    7205

3626???????????

Turned off-struggles to maintain 81F

     6475

60KWH+???????

84F

06/06/11

    7210

 

     6514

44kwh   86F

06/07/11

    7215

 

     6566

57kwh   92F

06/08/11

    7228

 

     6682

129kwh 93F



As you can all see, the regular A/C 4T and 5T together use LESS THAN HALF of the kwh that the 5T geo alone uses!

I will put the regular A/C reads in here again for comparison.

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Reads taken at  6PM

                         

Regular A/C turned on 06/30/11

 

 

 

06/30/2011

    7231

     3627

      6683

              82F

07/01/2011

    7236

     3641

      6696

32kwh,  87F

07/02/2011

    7243

     3666

      6718

54kwh,  96F

07/03/2011

    7248

     3691

      6741

53kwh,  87F



Now, the bottom line, do I have a piece of junk or what????????????????



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05 Jul 2011 10:29 AM
Bummer drao,
I'd suggest an autopsy, but it wouldn't be valid without the ground loop.
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05 Jul 2011 04:23 PM
Could you please elaborate, Joe.  There are only 2 possibilities:

 1 Bad units

2  Bad loop(unlikely -part of the loop was redrilled with input from Earthlinked)

I don't think it is my responsibility to find out because a factory certified installer, Brian Garno from Garno Brothers Heating and Cooling was my contractor.  I challenge the company and their distributor to make a customer that has been shouting off the roof tops that there is a BIG problem, happy!

I have already spent a lot of money on Aeroseal and topping up insulation since 2009.









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06 Jul 2011 10:44 AM
drao,
I wasn't suggesting you owe anyone anything.
As a geo pro I was simply rubbing my chin and thinking it would be interesting (for me) to go over the system and see what's going on.
I know that does nothing for you and I am truly sorry we could not come up with anything.
It is my understanding Brian dropped the product line.
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07 Jul 2011 10:29 AM
Joe,
Numbers do not lie.
All the readings, geothermal and regular are in front of you.  Go ahead and feel free to troubleshoot.

  Brian is disgusted with the way the company has handled my problem.  The company cannot and will not survive long term without customer satisfaction. The company is only as good as the product it sells.
 I have had several inquiries into putting Earthlinked in and I tell them to run a mile from any Earthlinked Rep.

The system has cost me $40,000 to put in and over $6000 in higher energy costs(OVER REGULAR) in the three years that it has been running.

A very dissatisfied customer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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